10/12/00:The Mideast & Home Depot Rock Wall Street
JEFF YASTINE: It was the kind of day on Wall Street that
investors dread. Events half a world away and right here at home pulled the rug
out from under an already nervous market. At the closing bell, the Dow had lost
379 points, closing at its lowest level since March; the NASDAQ fell 93, its lowest
point this year. Scott Gurvey looks at the factors behind the fall.
SCOTT GURVEY, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT:The
story of the day was Dow 10,000. Not the happy experience of reaching that level
for the first time, but rather the trauma of testing the psychological barrier
while headed down. The blue chip average closed about 34 points above that level
in territory it hasn't visited since March. The reason was an almost overwhelming
barrage of bad news from the Middle East where two Israeli soldiers were grabbed
from the protective custody of Palestinian police and killed by a Palestinian
mob. Israel responded by bombing Palestinian police stations, broadcasting stations,
and the headquarters of Yasser Arafat. At the same time, an American destroyer,
the USS Cole, came under what the Pentagon is calling, a "terrorist attack,"
while refueling in Yemen. Five soldiers were killed; dozens are injured or missing;
and the ship is severely damaged. Both stories were immediately reflected in the
oil trading pits where the spot price of crude jumped nearly 10 percent. The price
of oil is once again in the neighborhood of $36 a barrel, the 10-year high it
touched a month ago.
TINA VITAL, OIL ANALYST, STANDARD & POOR'S: What's new
in the game is the fact that we have very limited excess supply of crude oil worldwide,
which is something new to the scene. So any disruption to that would have impacts
worldwide.
GURVEY: The threat of higher energy prices is just what
investors did not need as they pondered earnings warnings - Dow stock, Home Depot
issued one today - as well as other consequences of a slowing economy.
AL GOLDMAN, CHIEF MARKET STRATEGIST, A.G. EDWARDS: There's
a panic going on in the marketplace, and I can understand the reasons. But, you
know, the marketplace is made up of fellow humans - let's admit it, we're all
a little bit nutty. And that means our greed and our fear go to extremes. We can't
do anything about that, but we can capitalize on it; and right now, you can capitalize
on the extreme fear in the marketplace by doing some selected buying.
GURVEY: Today's sell-off was broad-based. There were few
winners among the losers. Many, not surprisingly, among companies specializing
in alternative energy sources. Scott Gurvey, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, New York.
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10/12/00: The Forecast For Tomorrow's
Trading
PAUL KANGAS: To help us evaluate today's broad-based bold
bashing sell-off on Wall Street, joining us from Boston is Ned Riley, Chief Investment
Strategist, State Street Global Advisers. Welcome back, Ned.
NED RILEY, CHIEF INVESTMENT STRATEGIST, STATE STREET GLOBAL
ADVISORS: Good evening, Paul. How are you?
KANGAS: As nasty a downturn as it was, could it be considered
a final capitulation, suggesting we've now seen the bottom of this market?
RILEY: Well, I'd like to believe so, Paul, but unfortunately
I think there is still more could come. There were some individual stocks that
clearly went through that capitulation stage today, Home Depot (HD) and many others.
But I look at the market in four cycles and the first cycle is irrational exuberance
and we saw that last year with the NASDAQ up 86 percent. The first quarter showed
us what I call indifference. The market continued to go up in spite of higher
inflation and higher interest rates. The second quarter we saw some fear and panic
hit, particularly around April the 4th and May the 24th when the NASDAQ truly
got under a lot of pressure.
KANGAS: I recall it well.
RILEY: I think we're in this capitulation stage now. However,
I'm not sure we've completed it yet. And that capitulation stage, in my judgment,
is really when irrational exuberance means that there's no ceiling to stock prices.
Capitulation means that people don't feel like there is any floor and I haven't
seen that quite yet.
KANGAS: OK. Fair enough. What does someone like you, with
$24 billion under management, do on a day like this?
RILEY: Well, the fortunate part about this, Paul, is we
are long-term investors and we always try to tell our clients that the noise that
we see around days like today are opportunities for us. We'll go in and we'll
look at the companies that we felt were probably overpriced before and hopefully
add to positions. These are the kind of opportunities that investors should take
advantage of because clearly we are getting some good quality companies at low
prices.
KANGAS: What's on your shopping list, Ned?
RILEY: Well, I like health care stocks still. I've liked
them all year long, Paul. I like some of the consumer, what I call the consumer
staple companies, the Cokes (KO), the P&Gs (PG) and the rest. But I also like
to pick off some of these financial stocks that are under pressure simply because
there is a lot of talk about big write-offs in this third quarter and clearly
they are suffering from some new accounting rules. So, they've come under a lot
of pressure as well, almost as much as the technology stocks in the last couple
of weeks.
KANGAS: Do you have a level in mind where the Dow might
find this bottom?
RILEY: Well, I would like to believe that it would be somewhere
between 9,500 and 10,000 level. I think that's pretty reasonable and most of the
stocks have actually gone through their bear markets, starting on May the 10th
of this year. I should say March the 10th. So I think they've been through it.
KANGAS: How about the NASDAQ Index? Where do you see that
might-where it might entice buyers in a big way?
RILEY: That's one is harder because clearly I still think
there is some fluff left in this Internet kind of phenomenon out there. The price/earnings
ratios are still high. I think the NASDAQ probably has risks down to maybe 2800,
3000, somewhere in that range. But I am afraid of the top 15 in that Index. The
top 15 are the 42 percent of the total market cap of the NASDAQ right now and
they're still richly priced.
KANGAS: Do you think any company spokesman will ever make
an earnings investment again, because we've seen so many disappointments?
RILEY: Well, there are mine fields out there, and that's
a great question, Paul. I think in this third quarter what we are going to see
more company CFOs and CEOs try to clear the decks for this year, the rest of the
year and the beginning of next. This is the opportunity to do it because the SEC
has now said full disclosure and you shouldn't say much in the interim period.
So even if the companies are having good quarters and spectacular quarters, I
would hope they would come out and warn about the possibility of over exuberance
in terms of earnings projections and growth rates. Motorola (MOT) did it the other
day. They paid the price. It was the old saying you pay me now or you pay me later.
KANGAS: Right.
RILEY: And Motorola got paid off, unfortunately, shorter-term.
But Corning (GLW) took the other tactic. They said things look really great. They
upped their estimates and I would say that they are maybe setting themselves up
for some disappointment, particularly if they don't hit those targets.
KANGAS: That's a very good example. Actually, Corning (GLW)
edged up about $1.25 today, which was a triumph. But you think there might be
some problems with that estimate down the road?
RILEY: Well, unfortunately the whole sector, and I mean
when I say the whole sector, there has been a domino effect in technology and
I think eventually things may slow.
KANGAS: Got it. Very good, Ned. Thanks very much for being
with us.
RILEY: My pleasure, Paul.
KANGAS: My guest, Ned Riley, Chief Investment Strategist,
State Street Global Advisors.
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10/12/00: The US Airways/United Merger Takes Off With
Shareholders
JEFF YASTINE: U.S. Airways (U) shareholders today overwhelmingly
approved the proposed merger with United Airlines. With U.S. Airways stock trading
in the low 30s, 98 percent of shareholders OKed the $60 a share buyout offer from
United. But it must still be cleared by regulators, who have concerns about competition.
Analysts put the odds of the deal being cleared at about 30 percent. CEO Stephen
Wolf told shareholders and reporters he's committed to the merger.
ALAN MURRAY, CEO, U.S. AIRWAYS: We think this thing brings,
you know, an enormous array of consumer benefits for the traveling public and
should the Justice Department find something that they think is untoward or needs
to be adjusted, we'd be glad to talk to them about that.
YASTINE: Wolf hopes the deal will close by the end of the
year. Paul?
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10/12/00: Road To The White House: Saving Social Security
JEFF YASTINE: Well, with the days ticking down to the presidential
election, the rhetoric is heating up, especially when it comes to Social Security.
The system is a flash point for both major candidates. But which candidate's plan
gives taxpayers a better break? As our road to the White House continues, Darren
Gersh looks at whether personal accounts are a better investment for our Social
Security dollars.
DARREN GERSH, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: For
many workers, Governor Bush says there's just one problem with Social Security-it's
a bad investment.
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Right
now Social Security earns only a two percent return on your money. Under my plan,
even if a younger worker chooses only the safest investment, inflation indexed
U.S. bonds, he or she will receive twice that rate.
GERSH: But experts say it can be misleading to compare the
return on Social Security taxes to the money investors make in stocks and bonds.
After all, Social Security benefits are automatically adjusted to keep pace with
inflation. Stocks, as today's markets show, are not. And as the Gore campaign
points out, Social Security is more than an investment. It is also part insurance
policy, providing benefits to survivors and even divorced spouses.
LAURA TYSON, GORE ECONOMIC ADVISOR: It's a pay as you go
social insurance system. I put in a dollar. Now, some of that dollar right now
is being saved, but a lot of that dollar is going right out to the elderly who
have put dollars in before.
GERSH: But there is no doubt returns in the private market
are higher than in the current system. The Bush campaign estimates a mix of stocks
and bonds would yield a 5.5 percent return after inflation. By comparison, an
average income couple with one working spouse earns 3.8 percent under the current
Social Security system and all workers combined earn about two percent. But that
doesn't take into account one big problem.
SYLVESTER SCHIEBER, PENSION ANALYST, WATSON WYATT: We have
promised people who live in this society today about $3 trillion more in benefits
than we have made provision to collect income to pay for them.
GERSH: Figure in the tax increases needed to bridge that
$3 trillion funding gap and the expected return under the current Social Security
system falls to 1 1/2 percent. But any plan to create personal Social Security
accounts must also bridge the funding gap. The Gore campaign says that would mean
deep cuts in guaranteed benefits.
TYSON: And would the person make it up through the private
accounts? No, not in the next 35 years, they actually would not. Not even if the
rate of return on private accounts ends up being as high as has averaged over
the past 25 years. So this is not something that works.
GERSH: But Bush economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey argues
market returns will compound over time, providing taxpayers with a far better
return than under the current system.
LAWRENCE LINDSEY, BUSH ECONOMIC ADVISOR: At least we solve
the $3 trillion hole. The alternatives, cutting benefits or raising taxes, are
much less appealing. We ought to at least put some faith in the private markets
here because they have done so well and they offer the best chance we have of
making Social Security strong and secure forever.
GERSH: The challenge of moving to personal accounts for
Social Security is essentially this, one generation must figure out how to cover
the existing obligation for their parents' retirement while at the same time funding
their own retirement so their children don't have to. Darren Gersh, NIGHTLY BUSINESS
REPORT, Washington.
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10/12/00: Commentary: How The Presidential Hopefuls Are
Going To Impact The Economy
JEFF YASTINE: With less than a month now until the presidential
election the question on investors' minds is how each of the candidates might
impact the economy. That's on the mind of tonight's commentator, too. Here's Alan
Murray, Washington Bureau Chief of the "Wall Street Journal."
ALAN MURRAY, "WALL STREET JOURNAL": Which presidential
candidate would be better for the new economy? That's a question I've been asked
repeatedly since my book on the new economy, "The Wealth of Choices,"
came out this summer, and I always stumble on the response. That's partly because
as a journalist involved in the coverage of the elections I don't want to take
sides. But it's also because I'm torn and judging from the way they split their
campaign contributions between the two parties, many technology executives are
torn too. Here's the problem. Al Gore deserves credit for the good economy of
the last eight years. He was a strong advocate inside the administration for deficit
reduction. And while he may not have invented the Internet, he really understands
the language and the logic and the power of that new technology. But the new economy
isn't just about the transforming power of technology. It's also about the transforming
power of markets. The last two decades have seen market forces extend their reach
into ever more aspects of our lives. George Bush proposes to extend that trend,
bringing market forces to bear on the last great vestiges of command and control
government dominance-Medicare, Social Security, public education. Al Gore opposes
those changes, defending the status quo. So what's a voter to do? Well, we can
hope that whoever wins the election will work to restore the atmosphere of civility
here in Washington so the American people can benefit from the best both parties
have to offer. I'm Alan Murray.
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10/12/00: Paul Kangas' Wall Street Wrap Up
PAUL KANGAS: It was a Wall Street bear's dream come true
this morning as the MidEastern flare-up sent oil prices soaring, while that earnings
warning from Home Depot sent the stock plunging some 14 points at the outset.
That accounted for about 80 points of a 247-point loss in the Dow Industrial Average
at 10:00 a.m. The NASDAQ Index fell 56 points after an early 20-point advance.
Downside momentum picked up steadily in the blue chip sector throughout the rest
of the morning, with the retail and financial stocks taking a beating; while the
energy sector showed strength. The tech-laden NASDAQ market, which has already
taken some hard bumps, contained its losses quite well. At 1:00 p.m., the Industrial
Average fell to a hefty deficit of 346 points, with about 200 of that due to losses
in just five stocks: Home Depot, Citigroup ©, Boeing (BA), J.P. Morgan (JPM) and
IBM (IBM). The NASDAQ Index was down just 49 points. Once again, buyers were conspicuous
by their absence, causing the market to continue its free fall. The Dow Jones
Industrial Average finally closed with a loss of 379.21 points, or 3.6 percent
and now stands at 10,034.58. This is the fifth largest point size drop ever in
one day. In today's wide 437-point trading range, the Dow closed down 426 points
from the best level of the session. The NASDAQ Composite tumbled 93.81 points
at 3074.68. In its 178-point trading range, the Composite Index settled 174 points
below its best level of the day. Big board volume heavy, 1.37 billion shares.
Although that was down about 14 million from yesterday.
But here's the proof that buyers were on vacation or boycotting
the market: up volume only 336.4 million shares, and down volume just over a billion
shares. I don't believe I've ever seen down volume in one day of over a billion.
Transports down 66 1/3 points.
Utility Index off exactly 4 1/2 points.
The Closing Tick just mildly bullish at +97.
Standard & Poor's 500 off over 34 3/4.
The 100 down 20 1/3.
MidCap 400 dropped 11 1/3 points.
And the Bridge Futures Price Index up 1.79.
New York Stock Exchange Composite off over 16 1/4.
Nearly a 9-point drop in the Value Line.
Russell2000 Small Cap off just over 11 3/4 points.
And the Wilshire 5000 dropped 344.84. Not as bad a percentage
drop as the Dow, incidentally.
After the market closed, the Federal Reserve reported in
the week ending October 2, the M-2 money supply rose $14.1 billion. Once again,
the bond market benefited from the sharp sell-off in stocks triggered by those
heightened MidEast tensions and Home Depot's earnings warning. Frightened investors
sought safe haven in secured debt instruments, especially short-term U.S. Treasury
obligations. There was little else to account for. 1/8 to 3/8-point closing gains
in tax free and corporate issues.
And even better results in short-term Treasuries.
5-year notes up 15/32, bringing the yield all the way down
to 5.70 percent.
10-year notes up 16/32, with the yield at 5.71.
And the 30-year bond up 6/32.
And finally, the Lehman Brothers Long-Term Treasury Bond
Index rose 4.33 points.
as you well know by now, down 379 points or 3.6 percent
on the Dow, 787 issues up, but 2,140 down. Only 38 new highs for the year, 240
new lows.
Home Depot (HD) topped the active list on a massive 51.4
million shares, down $14.06. That's nearly 29 percent, all due to that earnings
warning.
Lucent Technologies (LU) had the earnings warning out yesterday
and dropped $10, or 32 percent, and it managed to edge back only $0.25.
Citigroup in that weak financial sector down $2.69.
Motorola (MOT) lost $1.25. Now, later today Merl Gilmore,
the head of the company's communications enterprise unit, which accounts for 70
percent of Motorola's business, resigned effective immediately.
Nokia (NOK) down $4 at $29.06, fifth in volume.
Nortel Networks (NT) lost $1.25.
Wal*Mart (WMT) in the weak retailing sector off $1.19.
Compaq (CPQ) down $1.66.
AT & T (T) lost $1.38 to hit a new low for the year.
And General Electric (GE) off $1.63 despite yesterday's
20 percent rise in earnings for the third quarter.
Corning (GLW), there you see it, up $1.25. The company sees
third quarter earnings at $0.34 to $0.35 and increased its own 2000 year estimate
from $1.15 to $1.17. Standard & Poor's issued a "buy" on the stock.
Best Buy (BBY) plunging $6.19 in reaction to Home Depot's
warning.
General Motors (GM) lost $1.13. Third quarter earnings came
in at $1.55, up from last year's $1.33. That was a penny above estimates but that
was thanks mostly to a big stock buy back, which actually decreased the number
of shares outstanding and sales were flat for GM.
IBM (IBM) down $8.94. That was the Dow's third biggest point
loser.
Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) edged up $1.13. A lot of investors
looking for refuge in the drug stocks today.
J.P. Morgan (JPM) down $10.81, the second biggest point
loser next to Home Depot in the Dow.
Three-Five Systems (TFS), now there's a percentage gain
on a day like this you wouldn't expect, but it did very well. The company in with
third quarter earnings, $0.19, up from $0.14 last year, and that was $0.04 above
the Street estimate.
Triton Energy Limited (OIL) up $3.13. The oil driller got
a "outperform" rating from Morgan Stanley who started covering the stock
today.
Newmont Mining (NEM), the gold producer, down-or I mean
up $1.25. Colmex (ph) December gold was up $5.80 to $278.80 an ounce, a big move
for gold.
Fletcher Challenge Energy (FEG) plunging $7.13. The country
of New Zealand regulators have halted the company's takeover by
Royal Dutch (RD) an Apache Petroleum. The New Zealand dollar,
incidentally, on that news went to a record low today. That merger was considered
to be supportive of their currency.
Hasbro (HAS) down $1.56. The company sees lower than expected
earnings for the third quarter of $0.06 to $0.10. The Street was expecting $0.32.
Albany International (AIN) down $1.31. The company sees
third quarter earnings at $0.30. That would be down from $0.35 a year ago.
NASDAQ trading, a loss of nearly 94 points, but not as bad
a percentage drop as the Dow, volume heavy, 2.1 billion, but down from yesterday.
Only 11 stocks up for every 29 lower.
Cisco Systems (CSCO) topped the active list, down $1.38.
Intel (INTC), look at that move, up $1.75. That was the
Dow Industrial Average's best point gainer.
Juniper Networks (JNPR) down $6.39. After the close, Juniper
had third quarter earnings out, $0.17, nearly double the Street estimate of $0.08
to $0.09. In after hours trading, Juniper's stock was up around the $207 per share
level.
Sun Microsystems (SUNW) off $3.94.
Applied Micro Circuits (AMCC) off $3.73.
Microsoft (MSFT) fell $1.38.
JDS Uniphase (JDSU) moved up $0.44.
CIENA (CIEN) up $1.45.
And then Yahoo! (YHOO) down $8.75.
PMC-Sierra (PMCS), 10th in volume, was up $ |