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Program: Tuesday, September 14, 2004

Wall Street Shouldn't Bank On Consumer Spending
The PBGC May Have To File A New Flight Plan If The Airline Industry Doesn't Recover Soon
One On One With Terry Lundgren Chairman & CEO of Federated Dept. Stores
Commentary: Our "Girlie" Economy
Last Word: The Gold At The End of The Dog Walk
Paul Kangas' Stocks In The News
Market Stats

09/14/04: Wall Street Shouldn't Bank On Consumer Spending

JEFF YASTINE:There is more evidence tonight that the traditionally strongest element of the economy, consumer spending, may be on shaky ground. The Commerce Department reported retail sales fell 0.3 of 1 percent in August, the third decline in the past five months. And as Suzanne Pratt reports, the outlook for consumer spending is still cloudy.

SUZANNE PRATT, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: The $64,000 question on Wall Street is, how will consumers spend in the months ahead? The latest data suggests to many that consumers may be fairly tentative. According to the Commerce Department, retail sales slipped 0.3 percent in August, slightly more than expected. Much of the weakness was due to a sharp drop in sales of autos. Excluding auto sales, the number showed a gain of 0.2 of 1 percent. Economists were divided as to how to view the most recent gauge of spending. Some say it shows that consumers are emerging from the second quarter soft patch. But others say today`s report was disappointing.

STEPHEN GALLAGHER, SG CORP. & INVESTMENT BANKING: I wish they could have been a little bit stronger. You know, in the range between decent to somewhat healthy. They are at the lower end of that range. It`s not a dismal consumer sector, but it doesn`t really have the punch that we`re looking for at this time in the cycle.

PRATT: Most economists do agree, however, that today`s retail numbers will not alter the near-term course of monetary policy at the Federal Reserve. It`s still widely expected that policymakers will hike short-term interest rates by a quarter-point when they meet next Tuesday. As for the future of consumer spending, that`s less clear. Many experts say the lack of visibility comes from the potential effects of higher oil prices and the still modest rate of job growth. On top of that, some say uncertainty regarding the presidential election could result in weakened consumer confidence. As a result, they say it`s tough to forecast anything but sluggish consumer spending in the months ahead.

DREW MATUS, SR. MARKET ECONOMIST, LEHMAN BROS.: I think we`re going to get some moderation, which is economist speak for a slowdown. But I`m not really sure that it`s something that we`re all going to have to worry about. The bigger concern for me would be if businesses don`t start spending money on a more sustained basis going forward.

PRATT: Even with the recent slowdown in retail sales, most economists still expect to see a 3.5 percent increase in consumer spending in the current quarter. That`s more than twice the pace we saw in the second quarter. Suzanne Pratt, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, New York.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

09/14/04: The PBGC May Have To File A New Flight Plan If The Airline Industry Doesn't Recover Soon

JEFF YASTINE: More turmoil tonight in the agency that backstops the nation`s pensions. With U.S. Airways now back in bankruptcy and Delta Airlines on the verge of joining it there, the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation is facing big problems unless big changes are made. And as Stephanie Woods reports, one congressman says he knows what changes to make.

STEPHANIE WOODS, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: The pension plans in the airline industry are a mess. U.S. Airways is considering terminating two of its pension plans. United Airlines says it can no longer afford to meet its pension obligations and Delta Airlines is raising the prospect it will dump its pension plan. That domino effect may put an already shaky backstop, the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, or PBGC over the edge.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R), OHIO: If the PBGC is forced to assume the airline industry`s nearly $30 billion in pension liabilities, workers and retirees will be left with reduced benefits and taxpayers could be left with a huge bill.

WOODS: The PBGC says it has enough cash on hand to pay claims for the next several years. But some observers say the agency is in serious trouble even without the airline liability.

DOUGLAS ELLIOTT, PRES., CENTER ON FED. FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS: Right now the PBGC, according to our model, has enough cash to last until 2020, even though if you look at the full measure of its assets and liabilities, it`s thoroughly broke.

WOODS: So Congressman John Boehner today outlined his plans to shore up the defined benefit pension system. They include having employers use a set interest rate to calculate pensions; requiring companies to fully fund their plans; and clarifying the process by which companies can switch traditional pension plans into cash balance plans.

BOEHNER: We can`t let companies dump their plans into the PBGC. We expect employers to fund the promises they are making to American workers, and I think it`s government`s responsibility to ensure that the regulatory process for setting up these plans and operating these plans is efficient, and not long, costly, and complicated.

WOODS: Analysts say while those measures would help the defined benefit system, they won`t solve the problem.

ELLIOTT: You`ve got enough of a past problem. Money has to come from somewhere, either from the corporations by catch-up premiums essentially or from the taxpayer.

WOODS: But companies that fully funded their pension plans don`t want to pay for those that didn`t and taxpayers don`t want to get stuck with the bill either. Given those unpopular choices, lawmakers admit it will be tough to get something passed. Stephanie Woods, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Washington.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

09/14/04: One On One With Terry Lundgren Chairman & CEO of Federated Dept. Stores

JEFF YASTINE: Well, shares of Federated Department stores finished $0.47 higher at $46.02 a share. That was one day after announcing a major change. Federated, parent of Macy`s, is dropping the names of its regional store chains, like Burdines, Bon Marche and Rich`s. Next year, all of those stores will bear only the Macy`s nameplate. I talked with Federated chairman and CEO Terry Lundgren this afternoon and asked him why make that name change. Mr. Lundgren, first just tell us why make this sort of an announcement? Why make this kind of change, eliminating these regional chains brands and going completely with Macy`s across the board?

TERRY LUNDGREN, CHMN. & CEO, FEDERATED DEPT. STORES: As you know, Jeff, Macy`s is a name brand known internationally and nationally, made famous by "Miracle on 34th Street" perhaps but also by the Macy`s Thanksgiving parade and other major events we do. We just couldn`t expand stores like Burdines and Rich`s across their borders. It was a great name, very very powerful in the local community, but not something we could expand and this gives us an opportunity to have a national presence of America`s department store, Macy`s.

YASTINE: Are you hoping to get some efficiencies, those sorts of things? Is there a cost benefit to this as well?

LUNDGREN: There will be. That`s not really the play, Jeff. There is no question that there will be efficiencies because of the national potential of marketing, but more importantly is the clarity of our message. We will be able to advertise for the first time on a national scale using high quality and high caliber marketing effectiveness tools that we couldn`t afford before and I think that`s going to be the big message.

YASTINE: Is there a concern though about perhaps diluting the Macy`s brand name? I mean as a kid growing up in New Jersey and Florida, I always thought of Macy`s as being something a little more special than just what you`d see with a regional chain. If there are a lot of Macy`s all over the place, does it lose a bit of that specialness?

LUNDGREN: I don`t think so. In fact I think we enhance the brand image. When we hyphenated the name 18 months ago beginning in Atlanta with Rich`s and made it Rich`s-Macy`s, our business improved. When we hyphenated the name in Miami in Florida with Burdines, Burdines-Macy`s this year, our business has improved. I`m not saying that was the reason. I`m just saying that certainly was not a negative. So I think the recognition of this very powerful icon name Macy`s has very broad reach.

YASTINE: Let me get you to talk a little bit about retail sales here. August retail sales nationally came out this morning, a little bit less than expected. You guys warned a little bit about your September sales due to hurricane Frances. How is that shaping up for you so far?

LUNDGREN: Certainly as you know, we are a very important retailer in the state of Florida, so obviously the hurricanes have hurt us, even when the hurricane, this particular one, Ivan does not look like it`s going to hit us directly, at least our stores, the scare kept people away from the Florida market. So it definitely hurt us for the month. We look at this as temporary and our view is, as we look forward into the fourth quarter, we forecast 1 1/2 to 3 percent comp store sales increases and we are staying with that forecast.

YASTINE: When you see these other warnings that have been coming out from other kinds of retailers and some of those sort of disappointing results, do you get just a little bit concerned that perhaps those forecasts may not come to fruition?

LUNDGREN: Not for fourth quarter. For third quarter with all that is going on with the Republican convention, prior to that the Democratic convention, certainly that was a negative to our local business for our stores like ours and then of course the hurricane in Florida, these are all temporary situations and I think as we start moving into the fourth quarter, I mean we`re a fashion retailer. That`s what we depend on. That`s what we focus on and we`ve just come from fashion week here in New York and the product looks very, very good as we are heading into the fourth quarter delivery cycle. So we feel pretty confident about what we are seeing on the runways will translate into clothes, our key customer will want in her closet.

YASTINE: When do you think you`ll start seeing that sort of a pickup in your sales as we move into the fourth quarter in another month?

LUNDGREN: The key period for us is November and December, of course. We do a very important part of our business and clearly an important part of our earnings during those months and that`s what we`re looking for.

YASTINE: All right. Let me ask you one other thing. In some of your releases, you talked about reinventing some of your stores. You have about half I believe of Federated stores, reinvented meaning remodeled, that sort of thing. How important is that towards the effort to drive more business into the entire Federated set of units?

LUNDGREN: The reinvent strategy is very important and those stores who will benefit from the name change will see this happening inside their stores, including the Burdine`s. Macy`s division as an example will receive the reinvent strategy where we`ll have upgraded fitting rooms for our customers with seating lounges outside with television hookups outside for the significant other to watch TV while she is changing and trying on clothes. We`ll have price lookup machines. We`ll have new technology put into the stores. All the things that worked so well in the initial rollout will be rolled out into the stores, all these things that have worked so well in the initial roll out will be rolled out now to these additional markets and you`ll start to see that aggressively rolled out not just this year, but all the way in through next year. We`ll 70 percent of our business done by next year.

YASTINE: All right. We`ll leave it there. Mr. Lundgren, thank you very much for appearing on the program.

LUNDGREN: You`re welcome, Jeff.

YASTINE: Our guest, Terry Lundgren, chairman, president and CEO of Federated Department stores.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

09/14/04: Commentary: Our Girlie Economy

JEFF YASTINE: Tonight`s commentator says the U.S. economy is not looking very "macho" these days. Here`s Alan Blinder, partner in the Promontory Financial Group and former vice chair of the Federal Reserve.

ALAN BLINDER, FMR. VICE CHMN., FEDERAL RESERVE: On day one of the Republican convention, California`s governator admonished us not to be economic girlie-men. Apart from the homophobic slur, I`m not sure what that means. I guess girlie-men are appalled that the payroll data show over 1.6 million fewer private sector jobs since President Bush took office, even though the adult population is almost 10 million larger. If so, let me come out of the closet right now: I do worry about the shortage of jobs. We economic girlie-men also think it`s terrible that real wages are declining while worker productivity and corporate profits soar and that health-insurance premiums have leaped 49 percent in three years, while the ranks of the uninsured have grown by over five million. I suppose economic manly men are those like President Bush, who claim that-- and I quote-- the economy is strong and getting stronger. Well, the plain fact is that the U.S. economy is not looking very macho these days. For example, both GDP growth and employment growth were decidedly sub-par last quarter. Another manly man may be Commerce Secretary Evans, who calls this the best economy in our lifetime. Whose lifetime is that? I remember a much better economy under Bill Clinton just four years ago -- with, by the way, policies that are virtually the opposite of President Bush`s. So could it be that manly men hide behind the skirts of misleading slogans, while girlie men face up to the facts? If so, count me among the economic girlie men. I`m Alan Blinder.

JEFF YASTINE: And a program note for our viewers. Throughout this political season, you will be hearing occasional commentaries on this program from Republicans, Democrats, and others about the presidential candidates and their economic policies.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

09/14/04: Last Word: The Gold At The End of The Dog Walk

JEFF YASTINE: And finally, usually when you walk your dog, the only payoff is a happier dog-- that is, unless you`re walking your dog in Bedfordshire, England. That`s where a man found a 1,200-year-old gold penny during his walk, and it`s worth more than a quarter of a million dollars. The coin is the first new Anglo-Saxon gold penny to be found in over a century, and it bears the name of a king who ruled over central England in the middle ages. The coin goes up for auction next month in London, Paul, and could bring much more than that estimated value.

KANGAS: That`s my kind of coin, Jeff. Heads you win, tails you win.

YASTINE: It`s the best kind of odds to have.

KANGAS: Absolutely right.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

9/14/04: "Paul Kangas' Stocks In The News"

PAUL KANGAS: Wall Street posted minor losses early today on that surge in oil prices and on earnings warnings from AO Smith, Office Depot and LS Logic, LSI Logic. The Dow and the NASDAQ indices fell just digits, single digits throughout the morning however and then optimism that Oracle would post solid results after the bell-- which it did, and we`ll have details on a bit later -- helped the market firm up nicely this afternoon. So the Dow industrial average closed up 3.40 at 10,318.16. The NASDAQ Composite rose five points to 1915.40. Standard & Poor`s 500 gained 2 1/2 points to 1128.33. Over in the bond market, the 10-year note rose 3/32 to par and 31/32, putting the yield at 4.13 percent.

Most active big board issue on 14.6 million shares, Lucent Technologies (LU) dropping $0.06.

And then EMC Corp. (EMC) $0.41 loss there.

Texas Instruments (TXN) still on the upside by $0.22 in a strong semiconductor group.

NorTel Networks (NT) gained a penny,

While Pfizer (PFE) lost a penny and was fifth in big board volume.

Time Warner (TWX), which has bowed out from bidding for MGM, up $0.35 today.

The Kroger (KR) down $0.72. Second quarter earnings for Kroger down 25 percent from last year, $0.19 versus $0.25 then. The company cited a 141- day strike in southern California as one reason for the lower earnings.

General Electric (GE) $0.07 gain there.

And Cardinal Health (CAH) moved up $2 a share even though the company`s going to revise lower its results for the last three years and nine months lower by some $28 1/2 million. However, the Thomas Weisel brokerage says that it`s not as bad as expected, hence the rise in the stock today.

LSI Logic (LSI) down $0.50. The company cut its previous third quarter earnings forecast from break even to a loss of $0.14 to $0.17 a share. And meanwhile, Wachovia downgraded it from "outperform" to "market perform."

McDonald`s (MCD) a $0.43 gain there. The company will boost its annual dividend by $0.15 to $55, $0.55 a share.

And Murphy Oil (MUR) a $2.34 gain. JPMorgan upgraded it from "neutral" to "over weight."

A.O. Smith (AOS), which manufactures electric heaters or water heaters and electric motors down $2.14. The company said higher steel prices will cuts its third quarter earnings from its previous estimate of $0.42 to $0.46 to just break even and 2004 earning will fall from $1.95 down to about $1. Standard & Poor`s downgraded the stock from "accumulate" to "avoid."

Progressive Corporation (PGR), the big insurance firm, up $4.83. Second quarter earnings $0.46, up from $0.38 last year, 11 percent rise in net premiums and the company started a tender offer for 17.1 million of its common shares. It`ll pay somewhere between $78 and $88 a share. Standard & Poor`s repeated a "hold" recommendation" on the stock.

Pier 1 Imports (PIR) moving up $1.06, although it had second quarter earnings sharply lower, $0.12 versus $0.20 last year, but that was in line with the company`s lowered estimates. It sees third quarter earnings bouncing back to $0.28 to $0.35 a share. The Street estimate is $0.30 a share.

Volt Information Sciences (VOL) up $2.72. Sharply higher third quarter earnings $0.60 versus only $0.14 last year. Sales were up 21 percent.

And then the Canadian helicopter manufacturer, CHC Helicopter (FLI) up $2.23. Third quarter earnings $0.98, well above last year`s $0.61. That`s on a diluted basis.

eBay (EBAY) topped the active list on NASDAQ, up $2.31. A lot of the online companies doing well on a general belief that their earnings will be at the high end of estimates for the third quarter.

Microsoft (MSFT) a $0.19 gain.

Intel (INTC) $0.03 drop.

Yahoo! (YHOO) moved up $1.33. The company will acquire Music Match, an online music provider. The price: $160 million in cash.

Cisco Systems (CSCO) gained a dime. That was fifth in volume.

Amazon.com (AMZN) another strong online stock, up $2.66.

Oracle (ORCL) dropped $0.07.

And Google (GOOG) still another strong online stock, up nearly $4 a share.

Applied Materials (AMAT) rose $0.20.

QUALCOMM (QCOM) tenth in volume, gained a half a dollar.

Kmart Holding (KMRT) did well today, up $3.66. UBS brokerage upgraded or increased its price target for the stock from $85 to $101 a share.

And those are the stocks in the news tonight

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

09/14/04: Market Stats



                                      NET    PERCENT
                         CLOSE     CHANGE     CHANGE

DOW CLOSE             10318.16      +3.40       + .0
HIGH                                        10340.13
LOW                                         10303.41

NASDAQ COMP.           1915.40      +5.02        +.3
HIGH                                         1917.74
LOW                                          1901.77

VOLUME                                       1,199.4
PREVIOUS                                     1,299.1
UP VOLUME                                      626.7
DOWN VOLUME                                    561.2

DOW TRANSPORTS         3225.00      +1.78       + .1
DOW UTILITIES           291.21       +.16       + .1
CLOSING TICK                                    +333

S&P 500                1128.33      +2.51       + .2
S&P 100                 546.93       +.82       + .2
MIDCAP 400              591.28      -1.42       - .2
REUTERS/CRB             273.39       -.08       - .0

NYSE COMPOSITE         6594.21     +12.40       + .2
VALUE LINE              360.72       -.40       - .1
RUSSELL 2000            570.96      -2.14       - .4
DJW 5000              10982.38     +16.85       + .2

U.S. TREASURIES
5-YEAR NOTE 3.375%
Sept. 15,2009        100  6/32      +3/32     + 3.34

10-YEAR NOTE 4.25%
Aug. 15,2014         101            +3/32     + 4.13

30-YEAR NOTE 5.375%
Feb. 15, 2031        106 17/32      +1/32     + 4.93

LEHMAN BROS.
LONG BOND INDEX        1755.35      +2.85


DOW CLOSE             10318.16      +3.40       + .0
ADVANCES                                        1612
DECLINES                                        1697
NEW HIGHS                                        105
NEW LOWS                                          14

                                      NET    PERCENT
NYSE MOST ACTIVES    4PM CLOSE     CHANGE     CHANGE
LU    Lucent Tech         3.41       -.06       -1.7
EMC   EMC Corp           11.12       -.41       -3.6
TXN   Texas Instrument   22.39       +.22       +1.0
NT    Nortel Networks     4.02       +.01        +.3
PFE   Pfizer             32.12       -.01        -.0
TWX   Time Warner        16.80       +.35       +2.1
KR    Kroger Co          15.98       -.72       -4.3
GE    GE                 33.82       +.07        +.2
CAH   Cardinal Health    47.49      +2.00       +4.4
LSI   LSI Logic           4.75       -.50       -9.5

NASDAQ CLOSE           1915.40     + 5.02       + .3
VOLUME                                       1,527.3
PREVIOUS                                     1,761.3
ADVANCES                                        1421
DECLINES                                        1626

NASDAQ ACTIVES
EBAY  eBay               94.41      +2.31       +2.5
MSFT  Microsoft          27.44       +.19        +.7
INTC  Intel              20.77       -.03        -.1
YHOO  Yahoo!             33.20      +1.33       +4.2
CSCO  Cisco Systems      20.35       +.10        +.5
AMZN  Amazon.com         42.67      +2.66       +6.7
ORCL  Oracle             10.55       -.07        -.7
GOOG  Google            111.49      +3.99       +3.7
AMAT  Applied Matl       17.22       +.20       +1.2
QCOM  Qualcomm           40.90       +.50       +1.2

AMEX CLOSE             1248.54     + 2.36       + .2

INDEX SHARES
DIA   DIAMONDS TRUST    103.50      unch.      unch.
QQQ   NASDAQ 100         35.63       +.04        +.1
SPY   S&P DEP.RECEIPTS  113.65       +.18        +.2

STOCKS IN THE NEWS

MCD   McDonald's         27.60       +.43       +1.6
MUR   Murphy Oil         83.22      +2.34       +2.9
AOS   A.O. Smith         23.36      -2.14       -8.4
PGR   Progress Corp Oh   84.98      +4.83       +6.0
PIR   Pier 1 Imports     18.90      +1.06       +5.9
VOL   Volt Info Sciences 25.59      +2.72      +11.9
FLI   CHC Helicopter     36.55      +2.23       +6.5
KMRT  Kmart Holding      89.00      +3.67       +4.3

 

 

 

 

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