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Program: Wednesday, October 20, 2004

Major Air Carriers Fly Into Major Financial Turbulence
Road To The White House-Bush/Cheney Policy Director Tim Adams
"The Business of Broadway"- The Role Of Marketing
"Money File"-An Education In Saving For College
Paul Kangas' Stocks In The News

Market Stats

10/20/04: Major Air Carriers Fly Into Major Financial Turbulence

SUSIE GHARIB: A turbulent day for airline stocks as several major carriers reported jumbo losses. Taken together, American, Delta, and Northwest lost a whopping $906 million in the third quarter, 74 percent of that came from Delta alone. Stephanie Woods takes a look at the reasons for the poor performance.

STEPHANIE WOODS, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: High fuel prices, low fares and hurricanes hit the airlines hard last quarter. For example, Delta's fuel bill topped $300 million, a 63 percent increase, which added to the carrier burning through $550 million in cash. The company is still trying to wring a billion dollars in concessions from its labor unions. Without those cuts, analysts say the company could file for bankruptcy by the end of the month.

RAY NEIDL, AIRLINE ANALYST, CALYON: Delta is in no immediate danger of liquidation. They are on the verge of bankruptcy and if they don't get immediate and sharp cost-cutting, they probably will go into Chapter 11. But they've got enough resources. The franchise is strong enough where if they reorganize in or out of bankruptcy, they can be a viable competitor long-term.

WOODS: Other major carriers are not faring much better. American Airlines reported a $214 million loss. To stem the losses, American says it will streamline operations and cut jobs. It also will add back seats it had removed to increase passenger leg room. Still, American expects even larger losses next quarter. Northwest reported a $46 million loss, compared to a $42 million profit for the same period last year. The company also revealed that the SEC is investigating its pension accounting. All three airlines are adding fuel surcharges to cover the higher costs, but analysts say that won't do it.

NEIDL: The losses for the legacy carriers will continue for at least the next two or three quarters, especially if fuel stays above $50 a barrel.

WOODS: But higher fuel prices aren't the only major challenge facing the industry these days.

RANDY BABBIT, FOLAT CONSULTING: Today, I think there's too many hubs. I think you've got too many seats in the air chasing too few passengers. And there will be a reconciliation of this over time.

WOODS: With fuel prices high, it's very difficult for the airlines to recover. Analysts say the airlines are all trying to hold on longer than the competition. When one goes out of business, then ticket prices can rise. Stephanie Woods, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Washington.

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10/20/04: Road To The White House-Bush/Cheney Policy Director Tim Adams

PAUL KANGAS: In the last 13 days of the presidential campaign, the issue of Social Security is also coming under scrutiny. President Bush wants to reform the system by adding personal accounts. Democratic challenger Kerry says that will lead to cuts in guaranteed benefits. Continuing our coverage of the road to the White House tonight, Darren Gersh talked with Bush/Cheney policy director Tim Adams, asking him about estimates that the transition to personal accounts may cost as much as $2 trillion.

TIM ADAMS, POLICY DIRECTOR, BUSH-CHENEY '04: First of all I would disagree with the notion of new costs. The costs are already there. There is a $10 to $12 trillion gap in the current Social Security system, a present value gap that has to be filled and it has to be filled by one of three ways. You either have to cut benefits, raise taxes or increase returns to the system. What the president has proposed is a conceptual approach of personal accounts which increases the return to the system. There is a cash flow issue, but it's not in the magnitudes that are being discussed.

DARREN GERSH, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: If you look at Congressional Budget Office estimates of the Social Security problem and the transition to personal accounts, they conclude that you would have to, if you address this problem now inject some new money into the system. So does the president propose to borrow that money?

ADAMS: By injecting money into the system now actually strengthens the system overall. It's like prepaying your mortgage or putting money away now for your children for them to go to college in the future. In a sense you're strengthening the system. You're reducing debt, but you're doing so with current cash flows. You're prefunding this pension. There are a variety of ways you can do it. You can find it (ph) by reducing costs in other parts of government. You could if you use revenues, new revenues or different kinds of revenues or you could borrow absolutely.

GERSH: Well, the most likely outcome that most people are expecting is that the president would propose to borrow this money to finance the transition to a new system. Can we still afford to do that with the deficit?

ADAMS: Sure we can. We're talking about small sums of money stretched over many years and our expectations for the deficit is that it's going to decline over time, in fact will probably be about 2.5 percent of GDP for 2005 which from an historical standpoint is about the average deficit as a percentage of GDP that we have seen over the last 30 years.

GERSH: Senator Kerry says look, if you're going to move to a personal account system, you're going to have to cut benefits, $500 a month for a senior. How do you respond to that?

ADAMS: The Congressional Budget Office report says that individuals who -- the average individual who has a personal account will be better off than an individual who does not have a personal account. You have to weigh it against the current system. The current system is not sustainable. There is a $10 to $12 trillion hole in the system. We have put forth a proposal, a conceptual approach to fix it. John Kerry has not. If he does not put forth a proposal, benefits will be cut or taxes will go up automatically to fill the hole.

GERSH: But the CBO in the letter to Senator Craig said that if you move to personal accounts, you have to reduce the guaranteed benefit and that you really don't come out ahead under a system of personal accounts than you would under the current system even with all of its problems.

ADAMS: Actually, I just looked at the CBO report before I came down here and it does say that individuals on average, individuals who have a personal account will have benefits that exceed on average those who do not. And you're right, those who choose voluntarily choose a personal account will see a reduced benefit from the Social Security fund, but the returns that they will realize over the course of holding that personal account will more than make up for it. And the Social Security Administration and other - the GAO and other acronyms in Washington have confirmed that.

GERSH: Let me ask you about jobs. We're still down about 1.6 million private sector jobs from when the president first took office. Is that an indication that the tax cuts maybe didn't do the job they were supposed to do?

ADAMS: Not at all. If you look at, most of the job losses that occurred over the past four years occurred in 2001. Actually most of them occurred before the tax cuts ever went into place. And don't forget that in the 90 days after 9/11, we lost about a million jobs. Over the past 13 months, we have seen about 1.9 or close to 2 million jobs on the payroll survey, even more on the household survey. So it's a timing issue. The job losses occurred in 2001 when we had a recession, the aftermath of the implosion of the financial bubble and 9/1 1.

GERSH: Tim Adams, policy director for the Bush/Cheney campaign. Thanks a lot.

ADAMS: Thank you.

GHARIB: Next Wednesday Darren Gersh sits the down with Gene Sperling, former White House national economic advisor and currently economic advisor to the Kerry/Edwards campaign.

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10/20/04: "The Business of Broadway"- The Role Of Marketing


SUSIE GHARIB: All this week, PBS is presenting a special series of programs looking at Broadway, "the American musical." Since it began, "the great white way" has provided a wealth of business opportunities for investors-- some successful, some not. One key to that success is how well a show is marketed. Tonight as we continue our series "the business of Broadway," Suzanne Pratt looks at the difference that marketing makes.

SUZANNE PRATT, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: After several weeks in previews, tomorrow is opening night for "Brooklyn, the musical." It is the only new musical to light up the great white way this fall. But, its solo status does not guarantee "Brooklyn" will be a hit in Manhattan. That's up to the critics, the audience and increasingly how well the show is marketed. At $7 million, "Brooklyn's" budget is relatively small for a Broadway musical and $1 million of it is being devoted to marketing. While that may sound generous, the show's producer says it falls short.

BENJAMIN MORDECAI, PRODUCERS FOUR: As an industry, we don't spend as much as we need to because we don't have it. You know, raising capital for Broadway shows is not easy. It's never easy.

PRATT: Initial marketing for "Brooklyn" included direct mail aimed at traditional theater goers. But the show really wants to appeal to a younger, hipper audience, much the way "Rent" did in the 1990s. That means a wide range of marketing tactics and locations, including 42nd Street and the New York City subway. It also means beer coasters and ads in teen magazines. Most of all, it means the Internet. "Brooklyn" has its own web site, where fans can download some of the show's music, as well as chat online with its creators.

JED BERNSTEIN, PRES., LEAGUE OF AMERICAN THEATERS & PRODUCERS: Marketing on Broadway has been made much more sophisticated by the array of communications vehicles. It's been made much more necessary because of the ease with which people travel around the world and travel around the country that you can actually take the Japanese audience into account when you're marketing a musical.

PRATT: "Brooklyn," however, is not the only show on Broadway with marketing savvy. This past summer, the producers of "A Raisin in the Sun" scored a Broadway coup when the show regularly sold out to a younger, non-white audience. That can be attributed to the show's well-known African-American cast, headlined by hip hop mogul Sean Combs, a.k.a. P. Diddy. But "Raisin's" producer also credits the show's urban outreach efforts, which targeted a diverse audience.

DAVID BINDER, DAVID BINDER PRODUCTIONS: We did a lot of e-mail and Internet marketing. We did street teams where when you - where, downtown, uptown, on the street, in stores where people would give you a postcard or flier or what not.

PRATT: "Avenue Q" proved that clever marketing isn't always just for the audience. At a private party for Tony award voters, the show debuted a new song entitled "Vote Your Heart." It was designed to sway voters to choose "Avenue Q" for this year's best musical. Needless to say, it worked. And, more traditional marketing in the form of TV commercials also goes a long way in moving theatergoers to shell out a hundred bucks a ticket. Thanks to a recent reduction in how much theater producers pay Broadway actors in commercials, Broadway can now afford to promote its shows with their stars. Some theater experts believe the change will revolutionize how Broadway is marketed in the future.

NANCY COYNE, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, SERINO-COYNE: I think it's huge. I think it's very big. I think it's very far thinking of the unions to see that this is necessary and to realize that marketing is something that keeps shows running longer and that keeps their actor's employed longer. It's definitely a win-win situation.

PRATT: And while marketing has always been crucial to a show's financial success, it's even more important these days. That's because now that the price tag for musicals can be as high as $13 million, a show needs to run for many months before it will just break even.

BERNSTEIN: There's less margin for error. It used to be that you could appeal strongly to a modest or small group of folks and you could do OK financially. Now you have to appeal strongly to an awful lot of folks in order to earn your money back.

PRATT: Broadway producers have yet another marketing strategy up their sleeves: the show's actors. We talked to some who step off stage to help insure that the show will go on. We'll have that story tomorrow night. Suzanne Pratt, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, on Broadway.

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10/20/04: "Money File"-An Education In Saving For College

SUSIE GHARIB: In "the money file" tonight, a good education isn't cheap. Just ask any parent who saved for years to put their child through college. Here's Harriet Brackey, personal finance columnist for the "Miami Herald."

HARRIET BRACKEY, PERSONAL FINANCE COLUMNIST, THE MIAMI HERALD: The question is, what is the best way to save for college? The answer is: don't let taxes be your guide. Lots of well-meaning families have jumped into poor investments because they wanted state tax deductions and Federal tax-free withdrawals. Take section 529 college savings plans. These things are obscure, hard to read. You can't compare fees easily. If your plan disappoints you, you have to pay a penalty to get your own money back. They need to be better regulated. Yet you get Federal tax free withdrawals and some state tax breaks. You get tax advantages too on Coverdale education savings accounts, but when you take that money out, you aren't allowed to use some of the other basic tax credits in Federal law. OK, how about pre-paid tuition plans? This is a contract with a state or a university. It's not flashy. You can probably actually understand it. Some tax breaks apply, but better yet, you don't pay the high fees of 529 plans. I say, go for the pre-paid, but not alone. Tuition is only half of what you need for college. For the rest, for the laptops and the clothes and the pizzas, you need to save and invest that money. If the tax law gives you a break, that's a gift. It's just not a guide to a great deal. I'm Harriet Brackey.


Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2004 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

10/20/04: Paul Kangas' "Stocks In The News"

PAUL KANGAS: Wall Street's blue chips opened lower on those high oil prices, along with disappointing earnings from JPMorgan, more weakness in the insurance sector and a Bear Stearns downgrade on McDonald's stock. At mid-morning, the Dow was off 70 points. The NASDAQ down eight. The semiconductor and biotech stocks led an afternoon rally, helping the blue chips pare their losses. The Dow Industrial Average came in with a modest loss of 10.69 at 9,886.93. The NASDAQ Composite actually gained 10 points at 1,932.97. Standard & Poor's 500 rose just a fraction to 1,103.66. In the bond market, the 10-year note closed up 15/32 to 102 5/32, putting the yield all the way down to 3.98 percent.

New York exchange volume leader on 27.3 million shares, Motorola (MOT) losing $1.75. As we reported after the close yesterday, the company quadrupled its third quarter earnings, $0.20 versus $0.05, but sales were below expectations and that's what turned off investors.

Lucent Technologies (LU) was up $0.10. Company in with fourth quarter earnings today, excluding one-time items, $0.04 a share versus $0.02 last year and a penny above the Street estimate.

Marsh & McLennan (MMC) finally an uptick on the stock after being hard hit over the last three or four sessions.

Countrywide Financial (CFC) tumbling $4.33. The company in with sharply lower third quarter earnings, $0.94. That's way down from $1.93. Stock traded as low as $32.10 today.

Pfizer (PFE) down $0.70. Its third quarter earnings out today, $0.44, nicely higher than $0.29 last year, but the company was somewhat cautious about the outlook.

J.P. Morgan Chase (JPM) down $0.73. Company third quarter earnings excluding charges were only $0.60 and that was $0.14 below the Wall Street estimate.

American International Group (AIG) down $0.10.

Citigroup (C) off $0.30 in a weak financial group.

General Electric (GE) $0.21 loss there.

And Merck (MRK), tenth in volume, moved up $0.24.

Honeywell International (HON) down $1.64. Third quarter earnings were higher, $0.43, up from $0.40 last year, but that was just in line with estimates, no big surprises there.

United Technologies (UTX) down $0.15 a share. Third quarter earnings nicely higher, $1.43, up from $1.27 a year ago and that was $0.02 better than the Street estimate, but the stock has had a pretty good run from its low a few months back.

Eastman Kodak (EK) a $3.05 loss. Third quarter operating earnings only $0.16 a share, down from $0.40 last year. On top of that, Standard & Poor's repeated an "avoid" rating on Kodak stock.

Callaway Golf (ELY) up $1.32, one of the better percentage gainers. The company did report a third quarter loss of $0.46 a share, versus earnings of $0.03 a year ago, but the AG Edwards upgraded the stock from "sell" to "hold" and that helped it.

Advanced Auto Parts (AAP) up $4.75. Third quarter earnings $0.68, up from $0.62 a year ago and Goldman Sachs started rating the stock with an "outperform."

Colgate-Palmolive (CL) up $2.29. Third quarter earnings $0.58, down from $0.63 last year, but that was right in line with Street estimates.

Whirlpool Corporation (WHR) down $2.22. Third quarter earnings $1.50, barely higher than $1.48 last year and $0.02 below the Street estimate. Company also cut its full year estimate. Standard & Poor's downgraded Whirlpool stock from "accumulate to just a "hold" rating.

Cott Corporation (COT), the beverage company, down $2.66. Third quarter earnings fell 14 percent to $0.31 versus $0.36 last year.

Owens-Illinois (OI), the glass containers and packaging manufacturer, had third quarter earnings sharply higher, $0.42 versus $0.16 last year, sales jumped a very respectable 31 percent.

Microsoft (MSFT) topped the active list on NASDAQ, $0.52 gain.

Intel (INTC) $0.65 rise.

Google (GOOG) tumbling $7.45. Third quarter earnings from Google due out tomorrow. Estimates range all the way from $0.21 to $0.62 a share.

eBay (EBAY) down $1.09. After the close, company had third quarter earnings, $0.27, way up $0.16 last year in line, and the outlook it said was quite positive. The stock in after hours trading jumped as high as 94.

Research In Motion (RIMM) up $3.60. That was fifth in volume.

Electronic Arts (EA) down $1.87. After the close yesterday, higher earnings, $0.31 versus $0.25, but it sees flat holiday sales. That hurt the stock today.

Cisco Systems (CSCO) down $0.25.

Yahoo! (YHOO) off $0.15.

QUALCOMM (QCOM) up $0.61.

And Applied Materials (AMAT) down $.23.

Jakks Pacific (JAKK) down $5.85. World Wrestling Entertainment wants to void its video game license, alleging bribery.

And finally, Children's Place (PLCE) is going to acquire 313 Disney retail stores and analysts say it will add $0.30 to Children's Place earnings in 2005.

Those are the stocks in the news tonight.



10/20/04: Market Stats


                                      NET    PERCENT
CLOSE CHANGE CHANGE DOW CLOSE 9886.93 -10.69 - .1 HIGH 9895.70 LOW 9804.19 NASDAQ COMP. 1932.97 +10.07 +.5 HIGH 1934.32 LOW 1910.83 VOLUME 1,689.0 PREVIOUS 1,733.4 UP VOLUME 839.3 DOWN VOLUME 813.2 DOW TRANSPORTS 3386.74 +41.40 + 1.2 DOW UTILITIES 300.93 +1.18 + .4 CLOSING TICK +650 S&P 500 1103.66 +.43 + .0 S&P 100 530.72 -.27 - .1 MIDCAP 400 586.43 +2.57 + .4 REUTERS/CRB 287.62 +2.21 + .8 NYSE COMPOSITE 6539.48 +9.09 + .1 VALUE LINE 355.71 +1.22 + .3 RUSSELL 2000 570.13 +3.46 + .6 DJW 5000 10807.63 +10.83 + .1 U.S. TREASURIES 5-YEAR NOTE 3.375% Oct. 15,2009 100 18/32 +8/32 + 3.25 10-YEAR NOTE 4.25% Aug. 15,2014 102 5/32 +14/32 + 3.98 30-YEAR NOTE 5.375% Feb. 15, 2031 108 30/32 +23/32 + 4.78 LEHMAN BROS. LONG BOND INDEX 1778.88 8.87 DOW CLOSE 9886.93 -10.69 - .1 ADVANCES 1767 DECLINES 1525 NEW HIGHS 40 NEW LOWS 73 NET PERCENT NYSE MOST ACTIVES 4PM CLOSE CHANGE CHANGE MOT Motorola 17.00 -1.75 -9.3 LU Lucent Tech 3.48 +.10 +3.0 MMC Marsh & Mclenn 24.92 +.82 +3.4 CFC Countrywide Fncl 33.17 -4.33 -11.6 PFE Pfizer 28.30 -.70 -2.4 JPM JPMorgan Chase 37.25 -.73 -1.9 AIG Amer Intl Group 57.60 -.10 -.2 C Citigroup 43.29 -.30 -.7 GE GE 33.22 -.21 -.6 MRK Merck & Co 31.40 +.24 +.8 NASDAQ CLOSE 1932.97 + 10.07 + .5 VOLUME 1,666.6 PREVIOUS 1,723.5 ADVANCES 1711 DECLINES 1333 NASDAQ ACTIVES MSFT Microsoft 28.70 +.52 +1.8 INTC Intel 21.45 +.65 +3.1 GOOG Google 140.49 -7.45 -5.0 EBAY eBay 91.36 -1.09 -1.2 RIMM Rsch In Motion 87.55 +3.60 +4.3 ERTS Electronic Arts 44.79 -1.87 -4.0 CSCO Cisco Systems 18.45 -.25 -1.3 YHOO Yahoo! 34.49 -.15 -.4 QCOM Qualcomm 43.41 +.61 +1.4 AMAT Applied Matl 16.12 +.23 +1.5 AMEX CLOSE 1299.36 + 12.81 + 1.0 INDEX SHARES DIA DIAMONDS TRUST 98.89 -.21 -.2 QQQ NASDAQ 100 36.07 +.18 +.5 SPY S&P DEP.RECEIPTS 110.52 -.22 -.2 STOCKS IN THE NEWS Display Name HON Honeywell Intl 33.80 -1.64 -4.6 UTX United Tech 89.90 -.15 -.2 EK Eastman Kodak 29.50 -3.05 -9.4 ELY Callaway Golf 10.60 +1.32 +14.2 AAP Adv Auto Parts 38.71 +4.75 +14.0 CL Colgate Palmoliv 45.35 +2.29 +5.3 WHR Whirlpool 57.09 -2.22 -3.7 COT Cott Corp 24.30 -2.66 -9.9 OI Owens-Illinois 17.30 +1.64 +10.5 JAKK JAKKS Pacific 12.96 -5.85 -31.1 PLCE Children's Place 29.63 +4.67 +18.7

 

 

 

 

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