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Program: Tuesday, November 9, 2004

Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers On The Company's Good News Bad News Day
The Great Interest Rate Debate
"They Made America"-Charles Schwab, CEO of Charles Schwab & Co.
One On One With Donald Baxter, Portfolio Manager, Philadelphia Fund
Paul Kangas' Stocks In The News

Market Stats

11/09/04: Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers On The Company's Good News Bad News Day

SUSIE GHARIB: Cisco Systems reported a 29 percent jump in its quarterly earnings after the bell, but investors were disappointed. In after hours trading, Cisco stock fell $0.50 or more than 2 percent. That`s on top of a 1 percent drop in regular trading. Cisco earned $0.21 a share in its fiscal first quarter. That`s right in line with estimates and up from $0.17 in the same quarter a year ago. The company reported net sales of $6 billion, an increase of more than 17 percent over last year. Looking ahead, Cisco`s CEO said he expects revenues in the current quarter to rise 1 to 3 percent. Cisco CEO John Chambers joins us now to talk more about the outlook for the company. Hi John.

JOHN CHAMBERS, PRESIDENT & CEO, CISCO SYSTEMS: Susie, it`s a pleasure to be with you again.

GHARIB: Welcome to NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT. You know, when we talked last quarter you said that Cisco`s customers had turned cautious. What are the CEOs telling you now?

CHAMBERS: I think when we talked last quarter, Susie, I said that they were a little bit more cautious than their optimism and I think the business confidence numbers that have come out over the last three quarters have followed in line with that. In terms of the current market, it`s kind of right down the middle of the fairway. I find if you want to be optimistic, there are very good reasons for being optimistic. If you wanted to be a little bit cautious in that optimism there are reasons for that. We kind of see it right down the middle in terms of our expectations and that`s what our customers are telling us.

GHARIB: You mentioned on the conference call this afternoon that you`re seeing more competition in Asia. We`ve also seen that Juniper Networks has been growing and picking up market share. How has the competitive environment changed?

CHAMBERS: Well, the neat thing is, Susie, we`re the number-one player in probably 10 to 12 product areas that have good gross margins and rapid growth and probably each time we`re on your show and I hope to be on it many times in the future, talking about our leadership, there will be one or two areas where a competitor might gain a little bit of ground or we might gain ground against them. The bottom line take away of it is we`re doing well across all of our product areas. I think we`re very well positioned whether it`s in routing or switching or IP telephony or wireless or the home marketplace, so I`m very pleased with our position. I think this quarter was another solid quarter, by the way with record earnings.

GHARIB: Can you talk a little bit more about Juniper though? It`s already going into some of your traditional markets. If it does get into the enterprise market which serves your big corporate customers, does Juniper pose a threat for Cisco?

CHAMBERS: I think our biggest threat, Susie, actually comes from the Asian competitors that are playing more than one or two product areas. I think you will always, if you are in a market with good growth and good growth margins, you`re going to face competition. The nice thing about Cisco is we`re in 10 to 12 product areas where our competitors are usually in one to two. So if I look to our competitors of the future it will probably be Asian competitors that will give us the biggest run for our money over the next decade or two. The key is can we execute as quickly as I think we can on bringing these networks together, moving intelligence into the network and out executing our competition.

GHARIB: You announced today a $10 billion stock repurchase program. This is on top of a $25 billion stock buyback program that`s already in place. What was your thinking on this?

CHAMBERS: Well, in listening to our shareholders, most of our shareholders are optimistic about our future and our growth potential if we execute well. They`d like to see us take down the number of shares and therefore give them more value as our growth occurs in terms of stock appreciation if we`re right in our execution. So it was really driven by our shareholders and we thought it was the right thing to do with the use of our cash.

GHARIB: We have seen that Cisco stock has been on the down side for a while. In talking to some of the Wall Street community, they say that looking at Cisco, it`s just not -- you can`t look at it as a growth story anymore and that`s what investor are looking for. What do you think that you have to do to show investors that Cisco is a growth stock?

CHAMBERS: Well, I think if you look at our history, Susie, we`ve always been a growth stock and I think the market, if we execute right, we`ll always get it right. If you look at this quarter, our quarter of growth was 17 percent year over year. I think versus almost all of the medium-to large players in high tech those are pretty good numbers. So during good years we grow faster than that to grow at 17 percent during a challenging quarter for many people in the industry I think it was a good number Susie. The stock will take care of itself if we continue to produce the profits and the earnings and the cash.

GHARIB: John, always a pleasure to have you on the program. Thank you so much.

CHAMBERS: Susie, it`s a pleasure as always to be with you. Thank you and you have a great day.

GHARIB: Same to you and we`ve been speaking with John Chambers, the CEO of Cisco Systems.


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11/09/04: The Great Interest Rate Debate

PAUL KANGAS: Federal Reserve (AUDIO GAP) to consider another interest rate hike. While nearly all economists are expecting another 1/4 percent increase, what the Fed will do at its next meetings is still the subject of debate. Scott Gurvey reports.

SCOTT GURVEY, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: The only way for the Federal Reserve to surprise the markets tomorrow is to not raise interest rates by one quarter of a point. The Fed has been steadily raising rates in a signal it feels the economy is bouncing back from recession and that historically low rates, designed to stimulate growth, must now be raised to prevent inflation. While the bond markets have assumed tomorrow`s move is a sure thing, they are evenly divided on their expectations for December. The Fed`s last meeting of the year is set for December 14. Fed watchers say a decision to raise rates at that meeting will depend mostly on the employment situation report for November.

RICHARD YAMARONE, CHIEF ECONOMIST, ARGUS RESEARCH: Yes, we did get a very strong payroll number last week and that`s very encouraging. However, it was only one of a dozen reports that we have gotten in the last month and it was by far the strongest report that we`ve received, but at the same time a lot of those data are coming in on the weaker side.

GURVEY: The higher short term interest rates have yet to show up in longer rates such as home mortgages. Most economists say they won`t unless the Fed moves much higher, above the 3 to 4 percent rate which is considered neutral for monetary policy. The markets tomorrow will be paying special attention to the Fed`s statement on current economic conditions, which is expected to note an improvement since the last meeting.

JOSEPH LAVORGNA, CHIEF U.S. FIXED INCOME ECONOMIST, DEUTSCHE BANK: They`ll basically say something to the effect that the economy is gaining more traction, that the labor market has improved, that the soft patch is over, something like that. But it won`t be a statement, we think, that will elicit a huge market response and I would like to inform people that that`s been the case all year. I mean, the Fed has moved rates and in almost every instance, the market reaction has been pretty muted.

GURVEY: One reason why many Fed watchers believe the central bank will hold off on raising rates at its December meeting is tradition. The Fed almost never raises rates at its last meeting of the year to keep from looking like a Grinch just before the holiday shopping season. Scott Gurvey, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, New York.


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11/09/04: "They Made America"-Charles Schwab, CEO of Charles Schwab & Co.

SUSIE GHARIB: For the next three weeks, in conjunction with the "They Made America" series airing Monday`s on public television, we`ll be looking at new innovators who are making their mark on America. These new innovators radically changed their industries. They range from a computer magnate to a financial whiz to a shipping giant. Tonight, we begin with Charles Schwab, a new innovator changing the way Americans invest. At first glance, Chuck Schwab doesn`t seem like a revolutionary. He`s shy, soft-spoken and looks more like a patrician Wall Street banker. But in the last three decades, he radically changed the way millions of Americans invest their money. On May day 1975, the government deregulated the fees that brokerage firms charged customers to trade stocks. Most firms reacted by raising prices, but Schwab, a 38-year-old mutual fund manager with his own firm, saw a golden opportunity. He launched the country`s first discount brokerage firm, Charles Schwab and Company. It offered investors trades at the then-unheard price of $50 a piece. That compared with fees of $200 or more at traditional brokerage firms. He decided on three principles that would make his firm unique: no investment advice, no cold calling and no commission-paid brokers. His goal was to make investing accessible to everyone.

CHARLES SCHWAB, CHAIRMAN & CEO, CHARLES SCHWAB & CO.: I wanted to break the mold. I wanted to create something that would be more customer centric, more something that you would or I would prefer to buy from. I`d rather have my mother go to that kind of company or my father go to that company, not some commission-driven broker.

GHARIB: The fledging firm was based here in San Francisco, thousands of miles away from the Wall Street establishment. It wasn`t even on the radar screen of the big full service brokerage firms. But they began to take notice as more and more of their clients used their research but executed trades with Schwab. Schwab`s marketing was also innovative. He was one of the first CEOs to personally pitch his company on TV.

SCHWAB: I said, what`s my wife going to think? What are my friends going to think? What kind of egomaniac are you? I said, I`ll try it once and the results with a person in the ad ended up being about five or 10 times more results than just having this inanimate ad saying save 75 percent.

GHARIB: Boy, did it work. Market share soared and by the early 1980s, Schwab was the largest discount broker in the country.

SIR HAROLD EVANS, AUTHOR, THEY MADE AMERICA: Like many of the innovators who made America, Charles Schwab was a democratizer. He enabled ordinary people to invest in the stock market, whereas it was actually the privilege of the elites. A democratizer is Charles Schwab`s gift to America.

GHARIB: Schwab could relate to ordinary people, growing up in a family of modest means in a small town outside Sacramento. He says money was a big issue. He also struggled with dyslexia, although it was not diagnosed until he was 47 years old. Ironically, he says the learning disability played a big role in his success because it forced him to surround himself with individuals he could trust to fill in the gaps.

SCHWAB: I had some serious issues when it came around to reading for instance and writing, and so I had to get the help of some really bright people around me to put some things together, whether it`s in writing or whatever it might have been and so I learned early on that I couldn`t do everything myself. I had to develop a team of people.

GHARIB: Thanks to the help of that team, Schwab could devote more time to the big picture. He saw what his company needed to thrive in the new era of investing. In particular, he was one of the first in the securities business to embrace technology. In the late 1970s, he risked the whole company to buy used IBM computers. Years later, he was the first to offer online trading in a major way. But other more recent big bets have not been as successful. The discount broker began looking more like a traditional brokerage firm. The company had lost its way. This past summer, the company`s board of directors forced out CEO David Pottruck (ph) and put Schwab back in charge.

SCHWAB: I think we have deviated, to some degree, our attention and our focus. It wasn`t completely gone, but I`ve brought it back in to a more laser-like focus.

GHARIB: And the focus for Chuck Schwab, now 67, is once again on his core customer, the individual investor. He`s also sold research firm Soundview and announced a new round of layoffs. Even with all this work yet to be done in the future, Schwab can still be reflective of his past success.

SCHWAB: Did I have ambitions? Yes, I had a lot of ambition. Did I have inspirations? Yes, I had inspiration from different people and so forth. Was I humble? Very humble. But, nonetheless, I just tried to persevere, and I look back and say, boy, was I a lucky guy.

GHARIB: Next week on the "They Made America" series airing Monday on public television, it`s the newcomers, the immigrants who helped build our nation. Then on Tuesday, as we continue our series "They made America: The New Innovators," we profile Michael Dell.

KANGAS: Tomorrow, how America`s seniors are coping with high prescription drug prices.

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11/09/04: One On One With Donald Baxter, Portfolio Manager, Philadelphia Fund

PAUL KANGAS: The past few years have seen some big ups and downs for mutual funds, but one fund that is riding high right now can also boast of a consistently good long-term record. The Philadelphia fund is up more than 17 percent year to date and 24 percent over the past year. It also shows an annualized return of 8.75 percent for the period that began in 1987. That`s when Donald Baxter began managing the Philadelphia fund and Donald, we`re honored to have you with us here in our studio.

DONALD BAXTER, PORTFOLIO MANAGER, PHILADELPHIA FUND: Thank you. It`s great to be here, Paul.

KANGAS: First, I understand the Philadelphia fund has a long history. What kind of a fund is it?

BAXTER: Well, it`s a fund that has the objectives of growth and income and we invest about 80 percent normally in stocks and the rest in very low risk investments to keep our volatility low.

KANGAS: As we`ve noted, you`ve managed your funds through some pretty tough times in the general market including two crashes. How did you manage to stay above water even when most stocks were sinking?

BAXTER: Well we didn`t get caught up in the Internet craze. So during that period of time, we actually underperformed and then when the bubble burst, money came back to more traditional investments and that`s when we caught up.

KANGAS: Understood. Now you`ve been doing exceptionally well over the past 12 months. Does that reflect your concentration in energy stocks?

BAXTER: Yes, energy stocks definitely helped us in a major way. Also though public utilities and banking stocks were major areas also.

KANGAS: Will you still go out and buy these three groups now?

BAXTER: I think those three groups are still excellent to buy. We did cut back our energy exposure by one third.

KANGAS: Took some profits, a little cash off the table. As a value investor, do you think it`s getting harder to find good values in this market or are there some good buys still out there?

BAXTER: Well of course, It isn`t as great as it was a year ago and we`ve been spoiled, those of us who have been in the business or watched it for a long time back in my case I can remember the low prices back in the `70s and `80s, so there`s no comparison between now and then yet even now.

KANGAS: What are some of your favorites right now?

BAXTER: United Healthcare for example is a company that specializes in selling health insurance. It`s had a earnings run of like nine fold in the last 10 years.

KANGAS: Is this one of your biggest holdings.

BAXTER: Well, it`s one of our major holdings and I think it`s over 5 percent.

KANGAS: What else would you buy here quickly?

BAXTER: We also like Costco. Costco is a company I think most of us know where people can shop and get great bargains.

KANGAS: We`re about to enter into the first year of the presidential cycle again and apparently a period of higher interest rates. Does that kind of worry you about the market`s prospects?

BAXTER: Well, I`m always worried because there are always things that can happen that you don`t expect as well as the things you think might happen. But we believe that the prospect of having some of the Social Security money going into the stock market is greater as a possibility of helping the markets.

KANGAS: Tremendous amount of money could come from.

BAXTER: It could be a new ballgame.

KANGAS: OK, any final thoughts for our viewers that you might deem important?

BAXTER: Well I think that the main thing is that you make the decision to be in the market if you can afford to be in the market and that you buy stocks or that you can live with.

KANGAS: All right. Donald, you`re living proof that the tortoise can still beat the hare in the market over the long run. Thanks for being with us.

BAXTER: Thank you.

KANGAS: My guest, Donald Baxter of the Philadelphia fund.



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11/09/04: Paul Kangas' "Stocks In The News"

PAUL KANGAS: Wall Street opened with modest gains thanks to another drop in the price of oil. The Dow rose nearly 30 points at the outset of trading while the NASDAQ gained five. But then some profit taking from recent gains sent stocks lower at midday when the Dow was down 20 points and the NASDAQ off five. A lot of caution ahead of Cisco`s earnings and tomorrow`s Fed meeting kept things stagnant throughout the afternoon. The Dow industrial average came in with a loss of five points at 10,386.37. The NASDAQ Composite gained four points to 2,043.33. Standard & Poor`s 500 fell a fraction to 1,164.08.

The Treasury market posted modestly losses. The 10-year note slipped 2/32, putting the yield at 4.23 percent.

The most active New York exchange issue, trading 29.2 million shares was Merck & Company (MRK) losing $0.57 on the close, traded as low as $25.78. Merck has hired a crisis management firm to deal with the Vioxx situation and also today, Moody`s Investor Service cut the company`s long-term debt rating from AAA to AA2.

Lucent Technologies (LU) moved up $0.02 and then of course, three former execs of Lucent have been cited by the SEC for alleged violations of anti- bribery rules in Saudi Arabia.

Motorola (MOT) $0.26 loss there.

Time Warner (TWX) $0.23 gain.

Pfizer (PFE), fifth in volume, lost $0.25 a share.

General Electric (GE) gained $0.30.

Viacom B (VIA.B) a $0.19 drop.

While Liberty Media (L) was up $0.19. Liberty recently acquired the right to almost double its stake in News Corp., but Liberty`s chief executive officer said his company had no hostile intentions for News Corp. whatever.

ExxonMobil (XOM) $0.59 loss.

And then tenth in volume, Nokia (NOK) moving up $0.14 a share.

Anthem (ATH) Incorporated jumping $4.73. California regulators have approved the company`s merger with Wellpoint, making the combination firm the nation`s largest health insurance company.

Let`s see what happened to WellPoint Health Networks (WLP) today and it had a very good day, up $8.93. Shareholders of Wellpoint will get one share of Anthem and $23.80 in cash in this deal, so today it`s worth $115 a share for Wellpoint stockholders.

CIGNA (CI), another big insurance company, up $2.50. JPMorgan upgraded it from "neutral" to "overweight," citing the company`s great turnaround potential.

And yet another insurance company, UNUMProvident (UNM) down $0.49 after Merrill Lynch downgraded it from "neutral" to "sell."

Maytag (MYG) rising $1.74. The company`s 2005 earnings it says could be as high as $1.60. The Street estimate ranges from $157 to $159. Standard & Poor`s repeated a "hold" recommendation on Maytag stock.

United Industrial (UIC), a defense contractor, up $3.15. What a turnaround, third quarter earnings of $0.56, versus a loss of $1.03 last year and sales jumped 43 percent over last year.

Church & Dwight (CHD), which makes Arm & Hammer baking soda among other things, up $2.32. Third quarter earnings including, excluding one-time items came in at $0.48 a share, way above, well above the $0.31 Wall Street earnings estimate.

Microsoft (MSFT) topped the active list on NASDAQ moving up $0.49.

Research In Motion (RIMM) $0.95 gain.

Google (GOOG) down $3.85 on some profit taking.

Cisco Systems (CSCO) down $0.22 on the close and I saw it as low as $19.15 after hours trading, despite the earnings being in line with estimates.

eBay (EBAY) moved up $0.78. That was fifth in dollar volume on NASDAQ.

TASER International (TASR) down $3.12 after a big gain yesterday.

Intel (INTC) $0.15 loss.

QUALCOMM (QCOM) $0.35 gain.

Yahoo! (YHOO) down $0.11.

And Travelzoo (TZOO), tenth in volume was up $3.93.

Genta (GNTA) lost 50 percent of its value on news that Aventis is terminated a drug development pact with the company.

Over on the American exchange, a big gainer, Cheniere Energy (LNG) up $11.76. ChevronTexaco and a unit of Total have exercised options to acquire about $1.7 billion cubic feet per day of capacity at the company`s Sabine Pass LNG terminal.

And also on the American exchange, pharmaceutical company Lannett (LCI) down $2.50, sharply lower first quarter earnings of a nickel a share, down from $0.17 last year and it sees 2005 earnings lower than this year`s earnings.

And those are the stocks in the news tonight.


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11/09/04: Market Stats


                                      NET    PERCENT
CLOSE CHANGE CHANGE DOW CLOSE 10386.37 -4.94 - .1 HIGH 10427.81 LOW 10368.59 NASDAQ COMP. 2043.33 +4.08 +.2 HIGH 2049.77 LOW 2034.41 VOLUME 1,455.5 PREVIOUS 1,358.8 UP VOLUME 778.0 DOWN VOLUME 647.6 DOW TRANSPORTS 3587.71 +5.74 + .2 DOW UTILITIES 322.29 -.23 - .1 CLOSING TICK +591 S&P 500 1164.08 -.81 - .1 S&P 100 556.90 -.40 - .1 MIDCAP 400 619.84 +2.18 + .4 REUTERS/CRB 283.36 -1.05 - .4 NYSE COMPOSITE 6886.34 -3.66 - .1 VALUE LINE 377.93 +1.39 + .4 RUSSELL 2000 606.64 +4.56 + .8 DJW 5000 11397.48 +2.19 + .0 U.S. TREASURIES 5-YEAR NOTE 3.375% Oct. 15,2009 99 10/32 -1/32 + 3.53 10-YEAR NOTE 4.25% Aug. 15,2014 100 5/32 -2/32 + 4.23 30-YEAR NOTE 5.375% Feb. 15, 2031 106 8/32 -6/32 + 4.95 LEHMAN BROS. LONG BOND INDEX 1747.41 -.37 DOW CLOSE 10386.37 -4.94 - .1 ADVANCES 1928 DECLINES 1383 NEW HIGHS 248 NEW LOWS 9 NET PERCENT NYSE MOST ACTIVES 4PM CLOSE CHANGE CHANGE MRK Merck & Co 26.00 -.57 -2.2 LU Lucent Tech 3.67 +.02 +.6 MOT Motorola 16.67 -.26 -1.5 TWX Time Warner 17.04 +.23 +1.4 PFE Pfizer 27.99 -.25 -.9 GE GE 35.42 +.30 +.9 VIAb Viacom "B" 36.01 -.19 -.5 L Liberty Media 9.70 +.19 +2.0 XOM Exxon Mobil 49.31 -.59 -1.2 NOK Nokia 16.19 +.14 +.9 NASDAQ CLOSE 2043.33 + 4.08 + .2 VOLUME 1,723.1 PREVIOUS 1,612.6 ADVANCES 1736 DECLINES 1353 NASDAQ ACTIVES MSFT Microsoft 29.77 +.49 +1.7 RIMM Rsch In Motion 78.91 +.95 +1.2 GOOG Google 168.70 -3.85 -2.2 CSCO Cisco Systems 19.75 -.22 -1.1 EBAY eBay 104.47 +.78 +.8 TASR Taser Intl 51.00 -3.12 -5.8 INTC Intel 23.08 -.15 -.7 QCOM Qualcomm 39.00 +.34 +.9 YHOO Yahoo! 37.03 -.11 -.3 TZOO Travelzoo 100.56 +3.93 +4.1 AMEX CLOSE 1326.65 + 6.90 + .5 INDEX SHARES DIA DIAMONDS TRUST 104.21 -.08 -.1 QQQ NASDAQ 100 37.89 -.09 -.2 SPY S&P DEP.RECEIPTS 116.88 -.23 -.2 STOCKS IN THE NEWS ATH Anthem 91.23 +4.73 +5.5 WLP Wellpoint Health 113.90 +8.93 +8.5 CI Cigna 69.15 +2.50 +3.8 UNM UnumProvident 14.42 -.49 -3.3 MYG Maytag 20.27 +1.74 +9.4 UIC United Industrial 36.00 +3.15 +9.6 CHD Church & Dwight 30.71 +2.32 +8.2 GNTA Genta 1.30 -1.30 -50.0 LNG Cheniere Energy 37.97 +11.76 +44.9 LCI Lannett Company 8.60 -2.50 -22.5

 

 

 

 

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