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Program: Tuesday, December 7, 2004

Congress May Have To Rewrite The Prescription For Medicaid
One on One With Carl Pascarella, CEO of Visa U.S.A.
Real Estate Meets Irrational Exuberance
One On One With Craig Callahan, CIO, Icon Energy Fund
Paul Kangas' "Stocks In The News"
Market Stats

12/07/04: Congress May Have To Rewrite The Prescription For Medicaid

SUSIE GHARIB:. It looks like the nation`s Medicaid system is in need of first aid itself. A new investigation by the House subcommittee found the government is paying too much for prescription drugs in the program. In some cases, pharmacies are making huge profits off of Uncle Sam, as much as 300 percent. As Stephanie Woods reports, lawmakers want to re-script the rules when it comes to prescriptions.

STEPHANIE WOODS, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: Congressional investigators say the Medicare program is paying inflated prices for prescription drugs due to layers of artificially high reimbursements to pharmacies. In fact, Medicare may be overpaying by much as a $1.5 billion a year.

REP. EDWARD MARKEY, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: The current reimbursement system practically begs to be exploited.

WOODS: Most states reimburse pharmacies based on the average wholesale price of a drug, called the AWP. In one example found by the committee, a drug maker`s sales price for 2000 capsules of fluoxetine, the Prozac generic, was $82.62, while the AWP was more than $5,300.

REP. GREG WALDEN (R) OREGON: We`ve allowed a system to develop where AWP, a number not defined by statute or regulation, has become the reimbursement standard for the vast majority of Medicaid prescription drug programs.

WOODS: Information supplied by five large retail pharmacy chains showed that drugstores paid an average of $0.22 for each dose of seven widely prescribed generic medicines, but received $0.56 in reimbursements from Medicaid. Drug makers often set the AWP, but they say they must keep that price in line with competitors or pharmacies will stop buying.

PAMELA MARRS, CFO, DEY: Given the system that now exists, our customers won`t buy from us if we lower our AWP. This was confirmed about a year and a half ago, when the reporting service lowered their published AWP for our drugs without consulting us. Our customers told us they would stop buying from us with the lower AWP.

WOODS: Pharmacies say the AWP is only one factor in their purchasing decisions. But lawmakers were doubtful, questioning one case of a reported 60 percent spread between what one of the nation`s largest pharmacy chains, CVS would be reimbursed from Medicaid versus the price CVS paid to the drug maker. CVS defended its actions.

DAVID MARSHALL, GENERICS DIRECTOR, CVS: To the extent that a manufacturer provides me with a published AWP or their AWP and references that AWP in a conversation or in a proposal, very often I will use that AWP value as a point of negotiation.

WOODS: Lawmakers promised to fix the Medicaid reimbursement problems, but that won`t happen until Congress returns next year. Stephanie Woods, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Washington.

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12/07/04: One on One With Carl Pascarella, CEO of Visa U.S.A.

SUSIE GHARIB: A new survey by Visa U.S.A. shows that spending by consumers and businesses on Visa credit cards totaled more than $26 billion during the past week. That`s an increase of 19 percent compared to the same period last year. Joining us to talk more about today`s data is Carl Pascarella, CEO of Visa U.S.A. Mr. Pascarella, nice to see you on our program again.

CARL PASCARELLA, PRESIDENT & CEO, VISA U.S.A.: Susie, it`s good to see you.

GHARIB: Let me ask you your take on retail sales this season. You look at these surveys every year, what would you say how retailers are doing this go around?

PASCARELLA: I think they got off to a relatively slow start coming out of the blocks on black Friday. The gains weren`t what they had been in the past but we`ve seen marked momentum since then, actually as you mentioned, 19 percent growth this year. The first week that we were tracking it until right after Thanksgiving, it was up around 17 percent or so. So we`re seeing some good trends as we go through the Christmas season.

GHARIB: How much of those gains do you think is really because of increased retail sales or is it because there are new merchants who are using Visa cards this season or maybe some consumers are using plastic instead of cash?

PASCARELLA: Well, I think clearly it has two things. We look at the trends, which we think are very, very important in terms of where people are spending their disposable income and their discretionary spending seems to be in a number of areas. The home furnishings area was up 22 percent, travel and entertainment, which is very good for the entire economy is about 18 percent. And so when we look at that, part of it`s expansion, because we`re continuing to gain market share and take money away from cash and checks, but there is an awful lot of just growth in terms of the trends and where consumers are going.

GHARIB: Mr. Pascarella, I want to get your response to the American Express lawsuit that it filed recently against Visa U.S.A. What are your thoughts on that?

PASCARELLA: Well I naturally can`t talk about the lawsuit per se but suffice to say we`re always ready to compete in the marketplace. And we`re very, very proud of our signature product, which is tagged to the affluent market households of $125,000 or more. We`re the market leader there where that used to be a bastion of American Express strength. Our small business is growing at 35 percent year over year and we`re going to become the market leader there the first quarter of next year. So we`re really taking the market head on and we`re focusing on continuing to grow our market share, continuing to look at cash and checks.

GHARIB: But what American Express is saying here is that they lost a lot of business because U.S. banks were prohibited issuing Amex cards. What do you think that Amex is going to have to prove to win its case?

PASCARELLA: I think they`re going to have to prove first of all that there was a market definition where they could fit in and we have always said that basically it`s not that they have an access problem. They`ve had a product and an infrastructural problem and we`ll stick by our guns there and I think the market has proven that. We`re the market leader in areas where they used to hold forth.

GHARIB: Now that Amex is going to be on an equal playing field here, what is your strategy to compete against them?

PASCARELLA: We`re continuing just to keep our eye on the ball. As I have mentioned before, the fact that our small business area is growing at 35 percent. Our affluent market products are growing in the high 30s as well. And we`re continuing to fight a tremendous incursion into the cash and check market. Our debit market is growing roughly 35 percent year over year. You saw yesterday the Fed noted that there are more plastic usage now than checks and that`s predominantly because that`s been our strategy. We have moved from 7 percent of our total volume being our debit products about five years ago to today where it`s over 45 percent.

GHARIB: We`re going to have to leave it there. Sounds like you`re getting a lot of growth at Visa. Thank you so much for coming on to our program. We really appreciate it.

PASCARELLA: Susie, it`s always good to talk to you.

GHARIB: We`ve been speaking with Carl Pascarella, CEO of Visa U.S.A.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

12/07/04: Real Estate Meets Irrational Exuberance

PAUL KANGAS: Part of the reason consumers have been in the mood to spend this year is a strong housing market. Home prices have continued to soar, despite rising mortgage rates. But now some experts say American`s passion for real estate is becoming irrationally exuberant. Erika Miller reports.

ERIKA MILLER, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: Imagine a situation where home prices plunge 10 to 20 percent over a few years, where houses languish on the market for months, even as sellers desperately slash their asking prices. Some economists say that`s not out of the realm of possibility. They warn the U.S. residential housing market is a bubble ready to burst.

IAN MORRIS, CHIEF US ECONOMIST, HSBC SECURITIES: There are warning signs flashing. Firstly, prices have nearly doubled in many states right across the U.S. over the past five years. Also, valuations are extremely rich, particularly if you look at prices relative to income or prices relative to rent.

MILLER: Morris is also troubled by what he sees as a bubble psychology among homebuyers. He says many assume that because real estate prices have skyrocketed the past few years, they will continue to do so. Another concern is rising interest rates, because they make borrowing more expensive. The Federal Reserve began nudging up rates over the summer and is expected to keep raising rates next year.

MORRIS: It typically takes more than just one or two rate hikes as well. You need usually a good series of them, say, over a year, before people see the monetary tightening having an influence on their asset price expectations for the future. So, difficult to say, but we suspect that by the middle of next year, the party will be over.

MILLER: But not everyone buys those arguments. The housing bulls point out that although interest rates are rising, they are still at historically low levels.

DOUG NAIDUS, CEO, MORTGAGEIT: Notional interest rates are still relatively low. If they rise by a percent or 2 percent over the next couple of years, they`ll still be relatively low. And if they continue to rise in a manageable way, the way they have in the past year -- most particularly the last six months -- that is something that will be absorbed into the market.

MILLER: Plus, optimists say the popularity of adjustable rate mortgages has made borrowing more affordable for many Americans. And some say the longer there`s talk of a bubble, the less likely it is to actually happen.

NAIDUS: The mere fact that we`ve been talking about a bubble now for a year and a half has added duration to what people would call a soft landing.

MILLER: A downturn in housing-- if it comes-- could have serious implications for the overall economy. Some economists predict that if home prices fall 5 to 10 percent nationwide, the economy`s growth rate could be cut in half. Erika Miller, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, New York.

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  12/07/04: One On One With Craig Callahan, CIO, Icon Energy Fund

PAUL KANGAS: Energy has been perhaps this year`s hottest sector and among energy mutual funds, among the hottest of all is Icon Energy Fund. For the year to date, it`s up 38.6 percent and since its inception seven years ago, it`s up an analyzed 14.2 percent, almost double the average for funds in the natural resources sector. The chief investment officer of Icon funds, including Icon Energy is Craig Callahan who joins us from Washington, our studios there and Craig, welcome back to NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT.

CRAIG CALLAHAN, CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER, ICON ENERGY FUND: Thank you.

KANGAS: First as we pointed out, your fund is outpacing other non leveraged energy funds even though it`s one of the few not run by a energy specialist. How do you explain that?

CALLAHAN: At Icon, we perform value-based., bottom up industry rotation and well over a year ago, we locked into our favorite industries and that included oil and gas exploration and production. We`re also heavily weighted toward oil refining, marketing and transportation and underweighted in the large integrated.

KANGAS: OK, now you`re a value investor and that basically means that you`re looking for bargains in the sector but after the run up that we`ve had in the energy stocks this year, are you still finding company stocks that are worth buying?

CALLAHAN: Yes we are. Across the board on average energy stocks are at about fair value but we still find bargains over in that oil and gas refining, marketing and transportation industries.

KANGAS: OK, what individual stocks from your portfolio would you recommend right now?

CALLAHAN: TK Industries, General Maritime, those are in the transportation portion.

KANGAS: OK and we have another one up on the graphics here, oil states international.

CALLAHAN: That`s in exploration and production, also still under priced relative to our estimate of fair value.

KANGAS: And they`re all listed on, I think General Maritime is on the American exchange, is it not?

CALLAHAN: I think it is.

KANGAS: Yeah, OK. Now Craig, we know those stocks are held by the fund, but do you own any of them personally?

CALLAHAN: No, I do not own any of those, nor do I have a position in the Icon Energy Fund.

KANGAS: OK. Well, it`s interesting that you seem to avoid the big refining and distributing names that we usually associate with energy. Is there a reason for that?

CALLAHAN: Generally valuation. There seems to be a large cap love affair left over from the `90s and the large caps just aren`t as cheap and aren`t as attractive as the smaller and mid cap names.

KANGAS: OK. Now, $50 a barrel oil has come and gone at least for the moment. The question is, what will happen to the sector if oil slides back to the $30 to $35 a barrel range? In that case, do you think we`ll see a major fall back in energy stocks?

CALLAHAN: Perhaps not. The correlation between oil prices and oil stocks isn`t as high as your viewers might think. There is plenty of movement in oil stocks that are unrelated to where the price of oil goes.

KANGAS: All right. Craig, I want to thank you very much for your insights and also want to congratulate you on your fund`s success this year.

CALLAHAN: Thank you.

KANGAS: My guest, Craig Callahan, chief investment officer of Icon Energy Fund.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

12/07/04: Paul Kangas' "Stocks In The News"

PAUL KANGAS: Wall Street opened slightly higher on the prospect of two possible deals: Johnson & Johnson in talks to buy Guidant and IBM reportedly selling its PC unit to Chinese computer maker Lenovo (ph). But the Dow and the NASDAQ Composite rose only single digits at best this morning. That lackluster upturn convinced investors a market pullback was overdue, and indeed stocks sold off across the board. The Dow Industrial Average tumbled 106 1/2 points to 10,440.58. NASDAQ Composite plummeted 36.59 to 2114.66. Standard & Poor`s 500 lost just over 13 points to 1177.07. Over in the bond market, the 10-year note rose 1/32, putting the yield at 4.23 percent.

New York exchange volume leader on 26.8 million shares, Lucent Technologies (LU) down $0.09.

Pfizer (PFE) dropped a penny.

But Guidant (GDT) was up $3.60. "New York Times" reported Johnson & Johnson is in advanced talks to acquire Guidant for as much as $24 billion. Johnson & Johnson stock fell $1.42 and that hurt the Dow Industrial Average by about 10 points.

General Electric (GE) fell $0.36.

Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) losing $1.35 after Deutsche securities and Wells Fargo both downgraded it from "buy" to "hold" on valuation concerns.

NorTel Networks (NT) gained $0.06.

Followed by Motorola (MOT) $0.30 loss there.

Time Warner (TWX) edged up $0.02.

EMC Corporation (EMC) a $0.30 loss.

And there you see Colgate-Palmolive (CL) moving up $30.78, $3.78, as you heard cutting its workforce by 12 percent. But also Standard & Poor`s issued a "strong buy" on Colgate today and boosted its target price by $10, all the way up to $59 a share.

IBM (IBM) fell $1.57, but did trade as high as $98.23 in the morning on news that China`s largest PC maker Lenovo, might announce that it`s buying control of IBM`s PC making business and might pay as much as $2 billion for it.

Georgia Gulf (GGC), the big specialty chemicals maker down nearly $7 a share. It was downgraded by Fulcrum Global Partners from "buy" to just a "neutral" rating.

Pre-Paid Legal Services (PPD) up $2.10. The company declared a year end dividend of $0.50 a share. That`s its first cash dividend ever and it will consider quarterly cash dividends next year.

Gerber Scientific (GRB) down $1.25, big percentage loss. The company had a second quarter loss of $0.05 a share versus earnings of $0.12 last year. Company cited restructuring charges at its Spandex unit.

And DreamWorks Animation (DWA) down $2.35. JPMorgan, Merrill Lynch and Bank of America brokerages all started covering the stock with a "neutral" rating saying it looks expensive since its $28 a share IPO late last October.

Biovail Corporation (BVF) moved up $0.55. Smith Barney began covering it with a "buy" recommendation and a $20 a share target.

On the downside, Alliance Imaging (AIQ) fell $1.25. The company sees lower than expected 2005 earnings in the range of $0.44 to $0.51 whereas Wall Street`s estimate was $0.52 a share.

NASDAQ-100 (QQQ) topped the active list again, $0.69 loss today.

Then Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI) moving $0.92 higher. Toyota will offer the company`s radio service in nine of its models beginning in early next year.

Microsoft (MSFT) $0.26 loss.

Cisco Systems (CSCO) dropped $0.09.

Intel (INTC) a $0.53 loss. The company met with analysts in New York today and said it will not meet cost cut targets because of production delays.

Apple Computer (AAPL) down $2.89 with some profit taking.

Same story with Google (GGOG) off $4.86.

eBay (EBAY) a $2.42 loss.

And Research In Motion (RIMM) fell $0.21.

Yahoo! (YHOO), tenth in volume fell $1.76.

NVIDIA (NVDA) moving up $1.09. That`s a 5 percent move. The company will supply graphic chips for Sony`s next generation video play station games.

And those are the stocks in the news tonight.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post broadcast. The program is transcribed by eMediaMillWorks. Updates may be posted at a later date. The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT. Information presented on Nightly Business Report is not and should not be considered as investment advice. Copyright (c) 2003 Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Terms of use.

12/07/04: Market Stats



                                      NET    PERCENT
                         CLOSE     CHANGE     CHANGE

DOW CLOSE             10440.58    -106.48      - 1.0
HIGH                                        10567.16
LOW                                         10440.36

NASDAQ COMP.           2114.66     -36.59       -1.7
HIGH                                         2161.30
LOW                                          2114.65

VOLUME                                       1,530.0
PREVIOUS                                     1,352.8
UP VOLUME                                      258.1
DOWN VOLUME                                  1,259.9

DOW TRANSPORTS         3669.66     -37.59      - 1.0
DOW UTILITIES           319.07      -3.14      - 1.0
CLOSING TICK                                    -115

S&P 500                1177.07     -13.18      - 1.1
S&P 100                 560.94      -5.65      - 1.0
MIDCAP 400              633.92      -9.04      - 1.4
REUTERS/CRB             281.21      -3.63      - 1.3

NYSE COMPOSITE         7014.72     -67.86      - 1.0
VALUE LINE              388.23      -6.10      - 1.6
RUSSELL 2000            625.50     -13.53      - 2.1
DJW 5000              11582.00    -139.95      - 1.2

U.S. TREASURIES
5-YEAR NOTE 3.50%
Nov. 15,2009          99 19/32      -1/32     + 3.59

10-YEAR NOTE 4.25%
Nov. 15,2014         100  6/32      +1/32     + 4.23

30-YEAR NOTE 5.375%
Feb. 15, 2031        107  3/32      +1/32     + 4.89

LEHMAN BROS.
LONG BOND INDEX        1751.15     +11.10


DOW CLOSE             10440.58    -106.48      - 1.0
ADVANCES                                         785
DECLINES                                        2526
NEW HIGHS                                        147
NEW LOWS                                          37

                                      NET    PERCENT
NYSE MOST ACTIVES    4PM CLOSE     CHANGE     CHANGE
LU    Lucent Tech         3.78       -.09       -2.3
PFE   Pfizer             27.20       -.01        -.0
GDT   Guidant            72.35      +3.60       +5.2
GE    GE                 35.31       -.36       -1.0
AMD   Advanced Micro     23.50      -1.35       -5.4
NT    Nortel Networks     3.73       +.06       +1.6
MOT   Motorola           18.00       -.30       -1.6
TWX   Time Warner        18.21       +.02        +.1
EMC   EMC Corp           14.50       -.30       -2.0
CL    Colgate Palmolive  50.07      +3.78       +8.2

NASDAQ CLOSE           2114.66    - 36.59      - 1.7
VOLUME                                       2,689.4
PREVIOUS                                     2,150.8
ADVANCES                                         798
DECLINES                                        2364

NASDAQ ACTIVES
QQQQ  Nasdaq 100         39.58       -.69       -1.7
SIRI  Sirius Satellite    9.01       +.92      +11.4
MSFT  Microsoft          27.07       -.26       -1.0
CSCO  Cisco Systems      19.73       -.09        -.5
INTC  Intel              23.48       -.53       -2.2
AAPL  Apple Computer     62.89      -2.89       -4.4
GOOG  Google            171.43      -4.86       -2.8
EBAY  eBay              113.92      -2.42       -2.1
RIMM  Rsch In Motion     89.61       -.21        -.2
YHOO  Yahoo!             37.08      -1.76       -4.5

AMEX CLOSE             1389.61    - 18.93      - 1.3

INDEX SHARES
DIA   DIAMONDS TRUST    104.41       -.94        -.9
QQQ   NASDAQ 100         39.58       -.69       -1.7
SPY   S&P DEP.RECEIPTS  118.10      -1.11        -.9

STOCKS IN THE NEWS
IBM   IBM                96.10      -1.57       -1.6
GGC   Georgia Gulf       49.53      -6.90      -12.2
PPD   Pre-Paid Legal     38.42      +2.10       +5.8
GRB   Gerber Scientific   6.66      -1.25      -15.8
DWA   DreamWorks Animat  39.60      -2.35       -5.6
BVF   Biovail            15.85       +.55       +3.6
AIQ   Alliance Imaging    8.58      -1.25      -12.7
NVDA  Nvidia             22.81      +1.09       +5.0

 

 

 

 

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